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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.02.04 19:46:00 -
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"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.02.04 20:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:different game bud, eve != dust514 while amaaar own the systems.... minmatar own the planets :P Don't burst the bubble, it's fun to watch Amarrians act as if they're accomplishing something in DUST. 
It's not like achieving something in Dust is meaningful. Dust is about winning quantity of battles rather than specifically important ones while district ownership illustrates the nature of districts that are being won and lost on random planets in random systems in random regions on 20 minute cycles.
That's not to say the Minmatar aren't winning. They clearly are winning the bulk of battles...... but none of the battles themselves having meaning.
It's not like for example.
I know you and you FW buddies have X assets in Tzvi or Lamaa and alongside EVE pilots you are all pushing down through Amarrian space planet to planet, system to system making significant and meaningful gains. Amarr responds by hunkering down on two planets in Arzad and alonside EVE pilots puts up a defence of the system and well all have a massive series of battles as EVE pilots plex the system and we try to win control of it for our side.
We're all too busy thinking of FW as completely sperate entities. Minmatar don't want to talk about EVE side because they we're thrashed both when they put up fights and after they gave up and neither do the Amarr want to talk about Dust because we simply can't keep up.
I'd probably care more about the Dust side achievements if they were actually achievements. We might get the odd game where Q-Syncs from both factions go up against one another but more often than not its one group of organised players shitting on disorganised players in a series of skirmish matches with no specific context, or tangible end game result we can see and understand.
Pardon me if I think conflicts in EVE with their locality, comparatively greater significance, and agency are more worth my time.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.02.04 20:50:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It's not like achieving something in Dust is meaningful. Dust is about winning quantity of battles rather than specifically important ones while district ownership illustrates the nature of districts that are being won and lost on random planets in random systems in random regions on 20 minute cycles.
That's not to say the Minmatar aren't winning. They clearly are winning the bulk of battles...... but none of the battles themselves having meaning.
It's not like for example.
I know you and you FW buddies have X assets in Tzvi or Lamaa and alongside EVE pilots you are all pushing down through Amarrian space planet to planet, system to system making significant and meaningful gains. Amarr responds by hunkering down on two planets in Arzad and alonside EVE pilots puts up a defence of the system and well all have a massive series of battles as EVE pilots plex the system and we try to win control of it for our side.
We're all too busy thinking of FW as completely sperate entities. Minmatar don't want to talk about EVE side because they we're thrashed both when they put up fights and after they gave up and neither do the Amarr want to talk about Dust because we simply can't keep up.
I'd probably care more about the Dust side achievements if they were actually achievements. We might get the odd game where Q-Syncs from both factions go up against one another but more often than not its one group of organised players shitting on disorganised players in a series of skirmish matches with no specific context, or tangible end game result we can see and understand.
Pardon me if I think conflicts in EVE with their locality, comparatively greater significance, and agency are more worth my time.
the problem is that this isnt eve.... nothing in eve effects us dust players, and by the looks of things nothing in dust effects those eve players (since us owning majority of the planets doesnt seem to do a whole lot in reguards to sov) soooo two different worlds brought together by some ******* in the sky occasionally raining down warbarge strikes on a timer for LP EvE is great and all (i played exploration and some FW myself) but the two games really arnt actually conneccted in any way other than fluff and the occasional orbital.
Indeed and its a shame. Dust's FW is no longer as regularly competitive as it used to be. At least from what I remember when I played it. We never aligned with your syncs and I never saw full corp squads on the other team like we did back before LP and that bullshit.
Nor does it have agency or context which would make the matches anything more than pub skirmishes with the occasional non WP OB.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.02.04 21:05:00 -
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altair Dovahkiin wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I still haven't seen any refutation of my accusation that the minmatar are unbathed illiterates. Of course, I know why. nott our fauallt ThE amaRR wood nott let us go to school 
We build you freaking schools in the Mandate!
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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